Hi everyone, I just launched https://easyindie.app to promote the idea of self-hosting via ‘one-click install’ systems like Cloudron, Caprover, and Yunohost. Any feedback is welcome and the code is open-source.

Hope this encourages more people to own their data.

https://easyindie.app

https://github.com/0dataapp/easyindie

Surprised to find this here! I've been developing apps for this since 2019. Yesterday, I finally made a Cloudron package for the Armadietto server https://github.com/rosano/armadietto-cloudron

• Title: DumbDrop on Cloudron - No accounts, no tracking, just drag, drop, and share.

• Main Page: https://dumbware.io/DumbDrop
• Git: https://github.com/DumbWareio/dumbdrop
• Licence: GNU GPL
• Docker: Yes
• Demo: https://dumbdrop.dumbware.io (I was able to guess the pin easily)

• Summary: end-to-end encrypted file-sharing app, maybe similar to wormhole (or filepizza but not p2p)

• Notes: they seem to make a nice suite of simple open-source software

• Alternative to / Libhunt link: e.g. https://alternativeto.net/software/dumbdrop/
• Screenshots:

@seeker Community app now available https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/15473/bind-git-backed-web-apps

@rosano said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

@jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ️

I realize it might be complex for me or any other person to integrate some of these into the easyindie.app listing, so I compiled them in simple text over at awesome-0data and added a few of my own, such as:

• libreserver: Your own personal server.
• ApisCP: Full-stack hosting platform with self-healing technology.
• CloudPanel: Run your favorite applications and frameworks without any additional configuration.
• Gardens: Host your own apps, find open-source tools, share how-to guides.
• Yacht: Container management UI with a focus on templates and 1-click deployments.
• Syncloud: Run your apps at your premises.

Also be welcome to contribute by editing the document.

Self-hostable remoteStorage server that enables connecting web apps to git. I'm currently using it to sync web apps to my Gitea instance on Cloudron but it's still in development. So far you can connect a GitHub account and choose a repo.

Be welcome to discuss also on the remoteStorage forum: https://community.remotestorage.io/t/bind-remotestorage-server-backed-by-git/967

Bind

I wrote a little guide for myself to clarify the steps and will share it below in case it's helpful for GUI-oriented people like me.

Can cloudron build pin with the 'latest' tag while also using the generated one (e.g. 20240319-170424-2309d298a) or the version tag from CloudronManifest.json? I would like to simplify my code below to not specify --tag anywhere if possible.

Finally managed to install a custom app via Cloudron by following the tutorial documentation, and without installing Docker.

1. Install the Cloudron CLI locally

sudo npm install -g cloudron
cloudron login my.example.com

2. Setup build tools

One-click install the Docker Registry App (replace alfa.bravo below with this app domain) and Build Service App (replace charlie.delta below with this app domain) via your Cloudron App Store. Configure the latter’s credentials in /app/data/docker.json

{
  "alfa.bravo": {
    "username": "CLOUDRON_USERNAME",
    "password": "CLOUDRON_PASSWORD"
  }
}

and restart the app.

3. Install the pre-packaged custom app

Replace the simple tutorial app with yours:

git clone https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/tutorial-nodejs-app
cd tutorial-nodejs-app
cloudron build --set-build-service https://charlie.delta --set-repository alfa.bravo/echo/foxtrot --tag golf
cloudron install --image alfa.bravo/echo/foxtrot:golf

If you want to update, run cloudron build again, then call cloudron update like so:

cloudron build --set-build-service https://charlie.delta --set-repository alfa.bravo/echo/foxtrot --tag golf
cloudron update --image alfa.bravo/echo/foxtrot:golf

Resources

Aside from the tutorial documentation, I found some hints in these forum topics:

• How to build (custom) apps using the docker-registry
• How do I do this??
• UI not working

I was trying to update an existing version of my community app via

cloudron versions update --version 0.0.1

and it seems to return 8.2.1 which is my cli version.

Not sure if I did something incorrect or if this is a bug.

Got this working for myself:

1. create an environment and define your SURFER_TOKEN / SURFER_HOST secrets there
2. set the environment in your job
3. expose the secrets to the run command

My example assumes:

• environment name alfa
• you want to upload the bravo directory…
• to your server under /charlie/delta

name: Deploy

on: [push]

jobs:
  build_site:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    environment: alfa
    steps:
      - name: Checkout
        uses: actions/checkout@v4

      # … other steps for install, build, etc…

      - name: Install surfer
        run: npm -g install cloudron-surfer

      - name: Upload
        env:
          SURFER_TOKEN: ${{ secrets.SURFER_TOKEN }}
          SURFER_HOST: ${{ secrets.SURFER_HOST }}
        run: surfer put --token "$SURFER_TOKEN" --server "$SURFER_HOST" bravo/* /charlie/delta

thanks to everyone for the feedback, great to hear you are receptive to the idea.

i'm personally super excited to get cloudron working for myself, it feels like the slickest and most robust option. i had it working but i need to save up so i can purchase the full version. congrats to this community on creating something so awesome and empowering with a sustainable business model too, y'all are trailblazers.

@girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

• Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
• Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
• Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
• switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
• degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

@james I tried installing the app on a different name and the issue was still there, but now it's not for some reason. Will try what you suggest if it happens again and report back.

Ghost recently made a UI for this https://ghost.org/changelog/signup-spam-protection/

@jdaviescoates i didn't know about the lifecycle settings, tried it and it reduced total size by 90% after a few days

@joseph i think this was around the time i switched from aws to backblaze, but i understand it didn't transfer pre-existing backups, only starting fresh, although i could be wrong. will try deleting everything if needed, but so far the previous solution works for me

@james My fix at the moment is to make a temporary commit moving Cloudron stuff into /Dockerfile and then deleting the commit after successful install. Seems to look only there.

@jdaviescoates The "App Passwords" is a pretty amazing feature, didn't know about that. I tried it and it works well, but it's still possible to login with the main account. I guess I worry that if someone can brute force guess the main account via one app, then it compromises all the apps…

@timconsidine thanks! it's actually 'comfortable text reading width' which i carry over from blogging and writing, but i might want to rethink this as it's not text-based ;).

i need to also have other options for going through the list, i never thought people would 'go through' it, assumed that people search for what they know already.

thanks again for all your great feedback. i have truly underestimated how important it is to browse via list and will make sure to add that next and let you all know. i actually had that working before and took it out!

re: the discussion about comparing platforms, i thought i had built in a filter for platforms but apparently i didn't, so i quickly deployed that now. you can search for 'yunohost' for example and see the apps that are there. might be easier to spot which ones aren't yet on cloudron. and of course there is the export of project data https://easyindie.app/projects.json for those who like to wrangle json.

The number one feedback from various communities is to show the apps as a list instead of icons, made a small update for this today. Hope it's easier to navigate:

https://easyindie.app/glance

good finds here! will check out the first one's podcast too.

@jdaviescoates thanks for mentioning that, yes i think there are tons of self-hosted solutions out there and i would like to highlight what is possible with one-click (as not everyone can deal with github READMEs). hope to improve easy indie and maybe integrate with apps from that other topic ️