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Hi @james I use apple mail (iOS macOS) and roundcube. However … maybe in not understand that „log“ correctly.
For me it means that there is no training/ no mails are used for spam training.
Shouldn’t that happen as soon as I put mails into the spam folder manually ?

same version here. for me these are two different problems, though.

Although there are lots of spam in my spam folder it seems that spam assasin is not being trained .
also that timestmap seems not to be correct ..
any ideas?

{
  "ts": 1761256837041,
  "type": "spam-learn",
  "direction": null,
  "uuid": null,
  "messageId": null,
  "mailFrom": null,
  "spamStatus": null,
  "mailbox": null,
  "quotaPercent": null,
  "rcptTo": null,
  "error": null
}

@vladimir.d {"plugins":[{"name":"ep_align","version":"10.0.2"},{"name":"ep_comments_page","version":"1.0.38"},{"name":"ep_embedded_hyperlinks2","version":"1.2.4"},{"name":"ep_font_color","version":"0.0.89"},{"name":"ep_headings2","version":"0.2.68"},{"name":"ep_markdown","version":"1.0.1"},{"name":"ep_openid_connect","version":"3.0.13"},{"name":"ep_user_displayname","version":"1.0.7"},{"name":"ep_stable_authorid","version":"1.0.5"},{"name":"ep_guest","version":"1.0.37"},{"name":"ep_etherpad-lite","version":"2.2.6"}]}

@nebulon no, haven't changed anything.mh...
that's the config

{
"requireAuthentication": false,
"defaultPadText" : "#Wxxx",
"padOptions": {
"lang": "de"},
"users": {
"xxx": {
"is_admin": true
},
"username2": {
"is_admin": true
}
}
}

Just changed the variables with the one from a fresh installed version. Same problem.

Hi @nebulon and thanks. Could just update directly to 4.4.1 - with same problem. Hangs on starting

/run/etherpad-lite does not exist
start the app with /app/pkg/start.sh to see if this issue persists.--> same error log

Oct 19 18:01:23 Etherpad start
Oct 19 18:01:23 ==========================
Oct 19 18:01:23 => Ensure /app/data/settings.json
Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_font_color current version: 0.0.89, required version: 0.0.89
Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_align current version: 10.0.2, required version: 10.0.2
**Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_comments_page current version: 1.0.38, required version: 10.0.4**
Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_headings2 current version: 0.2.68, required version: 0.2.68
Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_openid_connect current version: 3.0.13, required version: 3.0.13
Oct 19 18:01:26 => ep_stable_authorid current version: 1.0.5, required version: 1.0.5
Oct 19 18:01:26 => Ensure folder permissions
Oct 19 18:01:27 => Starting etherpad
Oct 19 18:01:27 2025-10-19T16:01:27Z
Oct 19 18:01:27 > etherpad@2.5.1 prod /run/etherpad-lite
Oct 19 18:01:27 > pnpm --filter ep_etherpad-lite run prod --settings /run/etherpad-lite/settings.json --credentials /app/data/settings.json
Oct 19 18:01:27 2025-10-19T16:01:27Z
Oct 19 18:01:27 2025-10-19T16:01:27Z
Oct 19 18:01:27 > ep_etherpad-lite@2.5.1 prod /run/etherpad-lite/src
Oct 19 18:01:27 > cross-env NODE_ENV=production node --require tsx/cjs node/server.ts --settings /run/etherpad-lite/settings.json --credentials /app/data/settings.json
Oct 19 18:01:27 2025-10-19T16:01:27Z
Oct 19 18:01:27 Using specified settings from command line
Oct 19 18:01:27 Using specified credentials from command line
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.830] [INFO] settings - settings loaded from: /run/etherpad-lite/settings.json
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.831] [INFO] settings - credentials loaded from: /app/data/settings.json
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.832] [WARN] settings - loglevel: INFO
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.832] [WARN] settings - logLayoutType: colored
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.832] [INFO] settings - Using skin "colibris" in dir: /run/etherpad-lite/src/static/skins/colibris
Oct 19 18:01:27 [2025-10-19T16:01:27.833] [INFO] settings - Random string used for versioning assets: ef86fca9
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.303] [INFO] server - Starting Etherpad...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.318] [INFO] plugins - pnpm --version: 10.18.0
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.327] [INFO] plugins - check installed plugins for migration
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.404] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_comments_page...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.404] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_embedded_hyperlinks2...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_font_color...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_user_displayname...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_stable_authorid...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_guest...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_align...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_headings2...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_markdown...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_openid_connect...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loading plugin ep_etherpad-lite...
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.405] [INFO] plugins - Loaded 11 plugins
Oct 19 18:01:28 [2025-10-19T16:01:28.600] [INFO] APIHandler - Api key file read from: "/run/etherpad-lite/APIKEY.txt"
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.231] [INFO] server - Installed plugins: ep_comments_page@1.0.38, ep_embedded_hyperlinks2@1.2.4, ep_font_color@0.0.89, ep_user_displayname@1.0.7, ep_stable_authorid@1.0.5, e**p_guest@1.0.37, ep_align@10.0.2, ep_headings2@0.2.68, ep_markdown@1.0.2, ep_openid_connect@3.0.136:01:Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.233] [WARN] plugin:ep_guest - disabled because requireAuthentication is false
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.233] [WARN] plugin:ep_stable_authorid - disabled because requireAuthentication is false
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T129.233] [WARN] plugin:ep_user_displayname - disabled because requireAuthentication is false**
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.238] [INFO] plugin:ep_openid_connect - OpenID Connect Discovery complete.
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.238] [INFO] plugin:ep_openid_connect - Configured.
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.238] [INFO] settings - Report bugs at https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.238] [INFO] settings - Your Etherpad version is 2.5.1 (stable)
**Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.887] [ERROR] server - Error occurred while starting Etherpad
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.887] [ERROR] server - Metrics at time of fatal error:**
Oct 19 18:01:29 {
Oct 19 18:01:29 "httpStartTime": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "memoryUsage": 343490560,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "memoryUsageHeap": 164920664,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_lockAwaits": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_lockAcquires": 2,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_lockReleases": 2,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_reads": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFailed": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFinished": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFromCache": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFromDb": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFromDbFailed": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_readsFromDbFinished": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writes": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesFailed": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesFinished": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesObsoleted": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesToDb": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesToDbFailed": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesToDbFinished": 1,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "ueberdb_writesToDbRetried": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "totalUsers": 0,
Oct 19 18:01:29 "activePads": 0
Oct 19 18:01:29 }
Oc**t 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.888] [ERROR] server - TypeError: Unexpected ? at 17, expected END: https://git.new/pathToRegexpError
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Iter.consume (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:205:11)**
Oct 19 18:01:29 at consume (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:315:10)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at parse (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:320:18)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at <anonymous> (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:503:40)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Array.map (<anonymous>)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at pathToRegexp (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:502:23)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Object.match (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/path-to-regexp@8.2.0/node_modules/path-to-regexp/src/index.ts:461:28)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at matcher (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/router@2.2.0/node_modules/router/lib/layer.js:86:23)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at new Layer (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/router@2.2.0/node_modules/router/lib/layer.js:93:62)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Function.route (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/router@2.2.0/node_modules/router/index.js:428:17)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Function.route (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/express@5.1.0/node_modules/express/lib/application.js:257:22)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at app.<computed> [as get] (/run/etherpad-lite/node_modules/.pnpm/express@5.1.0/node_modules/express/lib/application.js:478:22)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at Object.exports.expressCreateServer (/run/etherpad-lite/src/plugin_packages/.versions/ep_markdown@1.0.2/express.ts:6:7)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at <anonymous> (/run/etherpad-lite/src/static/js/pluginfw/hooks.ts:273:18)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at new Promise (<anonymous>)
Oct 19 18:01:29 at callHookFnAsync (/run/etherpad-lite/src/static/js/pluginfw/hooks.ts:236:16)
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.888] [INFO] server - Exiting...
Oct 19 18:01:29 [2025-10-19T16:01:29.888] [INFO] server - Waiting for Node.js to exit...
**Oct 19 18:01:30 => Healtheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.19.27:9001
Oct 19 18:01:34 [2025-10-19T16:01:34.889] [ERROR] server - Something that should have been cleaned up during the shutdown hook (such as a timer, worker thread, or open connection) is preventing Node.js from exiting
Oct 19 18:01:34 [2025-10-19T16:01:34.889] [ERROR] server - Enable `dumpOnUncleanExit` setting to get a dump of objects preventing a clean exit
Oct 19 18:01:34 [2025-10-19T16:01:34.889] [ERROR] server - Forcing an unclean exit...**
Oct 19 18:01:34 /run/etherpad-lite/src:
Oct 19 18:01:34  ERR_PNPM_RECURSIVE_RUN_FIRST_FAIL  ep_etherpad-lite@2.5.1 prod: `cross-env NODE_ENV=production node --require tsx/cjs node/server.ts --settings /run/etherpad-lite/settings.json --credentials /app/data/settings.json`
Oct 19 18:01:34 Exit status 1
Oct 19 18:01:34  ELIFECYCLE  Command failed with exit code 1.

Hi, v8.3.2
no modifications besides:
requireAuthentication: false,
and changes to "defaultPadText"
(as said 3 different Cloudrons, same problem)

New Updates new problems...as I couldn't remove the problems above I reinstalled the app from ground. No custom plugins. This worked finde (with each update) until the newest 4.4.0 / 4.4.1
Ap can't start. There are no custom plugins installed only these (see screenshot) without any update information. Had to go back to 4.3.x

same problem on 3 cloudron instances.
any ideas??

@andreasdueren hope this will make it to cloudron.

Scannt connect with 2.0 App to my immich server that needs to be updated..any plans?

@lucidfox said in Nextcloud update pushed too early?:

just fyi, an update for team folders to 20.1.1 has been released and fixed the group folders issue for me.

Yes. thx here too!!

would be great if we could get some help. Restore is not possible because lots files have changed since Upgrade. Thanks everybody

Just deleted group folders app an reinstalled it. Same error …

@avatar1024 Any solution for the missing/non working group folders app?

Guys, I got it running in Lamp without error 500. Just copy the install.zip into the public folder of lamp and unzip it there. Do NOT unzip the install.zip locally and copy it via ftp on Lamp. Works like a charm.
For custom themes - deactivate automatic backup first (however that doesn't work) and then upload your themes

@Kelsey67 thanks. that’s what I have used anyway.