Cloudron migration to new server: amazing!!!
imc67 last edited by girish
just wanted to share a wow experience.
I had a Cloudron Premium server at DO for almost a year and wanted to migrate it to NetCup (better specs and cheaper).
The docs are very clear and promising (https://cloudron.io/documentation/backups/#move-cloudron-to-another-server) but yeah, you never know ...
Well, I know now .... within 5 minutes after entering the backup location details EVERYTHING (4 websites + Matomo + Searx) and all email (all together about 6GB) was in production on the new server including all DNS of all 17 domains.
Downtime: 0 seconds
This is really amazing!
christiaan last edited by
That's great to know. I'm using DigitalOcean at the mo, which I love so far, but it looks a little on the expensive side in comparison to NetCup for instance.
scooke last edited by
@imc67 Which NetCup vps did you choose?
@imc67 Awesome, definitely interested to follow your experience with Netcup.
I got to the end of their checkout and just hesitated from searching around on their support and changed direction to Hetzner last minute and very happy with that.
Netcup certainly is the highest specs and features for bucks I could see but I just have so many users I fell for the bigger name of Hetzner and really need a decent Teams/Members setup to have various Sys Admins per VM.
Keeping an open mind though so do update as you go.
Agreed - Cloudron is a revelation - the dedication and community makes all the difference when you find system designers that just get it and focus on the sum of a thousand user needs details.
@christiaan Yeah, nothing wrong with DO - but they do seem part of the big-5 club that all have suspiciously identical pricing and mostly similar features.
More than happy with Hetzner though - it was the network level DDoS by default that swung it for me - although a network level WAF would be nice for Cloud VMs.
Netcup looks feature comparable but I guess I just got support nerves in the end and opted to pay a little more. Still less than DO though and will be migrating a lot away from Azure & Vultr as I get through the Cloudron + Hetzner setups for ~50 users.
@scooke 2 of my 3 Cloudron Pros are on NetCup (1 still on DO):
Cloudron 1 (lots of traffic/usage):
RS 8000 G9
AMD EPYC 7702
64 GB DDR4 RAM (ECC)
10 dedizierte Kerne
2 TB SSD
Cloudron 2 (less traffic/playground):
VPS 2000 G9
16 GB RAM
320 GB SSD (RAID10)
80 TB Traffic
@marcusquinn I was "afraid" too of NetCup being so cheap and with such high specs. That's why I first moved 1 cloudron to experience their product and services.
The products are simply good, you get what they say in specs. Server Control Panel looks a bit 2010 but it simply works and smart!
Service: my experience with their email response times: average of 15 minutes! Not always the right answer (for me) in the first reply but always got an answer anyway.
The only really downside: their IP reputation is really bad. With DO I never experienced my IP was listed/blocked for email somewhere. My 2 cloudrons on NetCup both had issues with specifically Microsoft (outlook, live, hotmail). But support solved that by contacting MS.
@imc67 could you pls elaborate on this? I’ve experienced a similar issue.
My 2 cloudrons on NetCup both had issues with specifically Microsoft (outlook, live, hotmail). But support solved that by contacting MS.
What are the steps you take to resolve this?
@vjvanjungg I sent an email with the email headers of the bounced emails and requested if they could contact MS to delist.
@imc67 Doing a bunch of sendmail service testing at the mo so will post more reviews in this feedback as I go to share the wealth and all that: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2851/seeking-recommendations-based-on-experience-for-sendmail-relays