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    • imc67
      imc67 last edited by girish

      Hi all,

      just wanted to share a wow experience.

      I had a Cloudron Premium server at DO for almost a year and wanted to migrate it to NetCup (better specs and cheaper).

      The docs are very clear and promising (https://cloudron.io/documentation/backups/#move-cloudron-to-another-server) but yeah, you never know ...

      Well, I know now .... within 5 minutes after entering the backup location details EVERYTHING (4 websites + Matomo + Searx) and all email (all together about 6GB) was in production on the new server including all DNS of all 17 domains.

      Downtime: 0 seconds

      This is really amazing!

      Thanks @girish and @nebulon for this great product, I already was a Cloudron fan but now even more.

      Kind regards,

      Marcel.

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      • girish
        girish Staff last edited by

        Thanks @imc67 👍

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        • christiaan
          christiaan last edited by

          That's great to know. I'm using DigitalOcean at the mo, which I love so far, but it looks a little on the expensive side in comparison to NetCup for instance.

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          • scooke
            scooke @imc67 last edited by

            @imc67 Which NetCup vps did you choose?

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            • marcusquinn
              marcusquinn @imc67 last edited by

              @imc67 Awesome, definitely interested to follow your experience with Netcup.

              I got to the end of their checkout and just hesitated from searching around on their support and changed direction to Hetzner last minute and very happy with that.

              Netcup certainly is the highest specs and features for bucks I could see but I just have so many users I fell for the bigger name of Hetzner and really need a decent Teams/Members setup to have various Sys Admins per VM.

              Keeping an open mind though so do update as you go.

              Agreed - Cloudron is a revelation - the dedication and community makes all the difference when you find system designers that just get it and focus on the sum of a thousand user needs details.

              Great story!

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              • marcusquinn
                marcusquinn @christiaan last edited by

                @christiaan Yeah, nothing wrong with DO - but they do seem part of the big-5 club that all have suspiciously identical pricing and mostly similar features.

                More than happy with Hetzner though - it was the network level DDoS by default that swung it for me - although a network level WAF would be nice for Cloud VMs.

                Netcup looks feature comparable but I guess I just got support nerves in the end and opted to pay a little more. Still less than DO though and will be migrating a lot away from Azure & Vultr as I get through the Cloudron + Hetzner setups for ~50 users.

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                • imc67
                  imc67 @scooke last edited by

                  @scooke 2 of my 3 Cloudron Pros are on NetCup (1 still on DO):

                  Cloudron 1 (lots of traffic/usage):

                  RS 8000 G9
                  AMD EPYC™ 7702
                  64 GB DDR4 RAM (ECC)
                  10 dedizierte Kerne
                  2 TB SSD

                  Cloudron 2 (less traffic/playground):
                  VPS 2000 G9
                  4 vCore
                  16 GB RAM
                  320 GB SSD (RAID10)
                  80 TB Traffic

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                  • imc67
                    imc67 @marcusquinn last edited by

                    @marcusquinn I was "afraid" too of NetCup being so cheap and with such high specs. That's why I first moved 1 cloudron to experience their product and services.

                    The products are simply good, you get what they say in specs. Server Control Panel looks a bit 2010 but it simply works and smart!

                    Service: my experience with their email response times: average of 15 minutes! Not always the right answer (for me) in the first reply but always got an answer anyway.

                    The only really downside: their IP reputation is really bad. With DO I never experienced my IP was listed/blocked for email somewhere. My 2 cloudrons on NetCup both had issues with specifically Microsoft (outlook, live, hotmail). But support solved that by contacting MS.

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                    • imc67
                      imc67 @marcusquinn last edited by

                      @marcusquinn said in Cloudron migration to new server: amazing!!!:

                      but they do seem part of the big-5 club that all have suspiciously identical pricing and mostly similar features

                      Exactly!!!

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                        vjvanjungg @imc67 last edited by

                        @imc67 could you pls elaborate on this? I’ve experienced a similar issue.

                        My 2 cloudrons on NetCup both had issues with specifically Microsoft (outlook, live, hotmail). But support solved that by contacting MS.

                        What are the steps you take to resolve this?

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                        • imc67
                          imc67 @vjvanjungg last edited by

                          @vjvanjungg I sent an email with the email headers of the bounced emails and requested if they could contact MS to delist.

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                          • marcusquinn
                            marcusquinn @imc67 last edited by

                            @imc67 Doing a bunch of sendmail service testing at the mo so will post more reviews in this feedback as I go to share the wealth and all that: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2851/seeking-recommendations-based-on-experience-for-sendmail-relays

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