There's this guide - https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-20/ in case you haven't seen it already. Main gotcha is that the mysql server sometimes upgrades and sometimes doesn't. In the end, we want MySQL server 8. Sometimes, it asks you whether you want to remove mysql data. Be sure not to remove it!

@andreasdueren good question, the Mautic topic is relevant as is any web hosting app, like Wordpress and Surfer.

Perhaps house it in the Mautic section of the forum and mention the rest in the post so it can be found by any of those means. 😄

@moocloud_matt said in Could someone direct me to a site dealing with open source app re-naming conventions pls?:

if you offer NextCloud as a service you CAN'T offer it with the name of NextCloud

Yes, I wanted to include something about this in my earlier reply, but then forgot about it. In this specific case its not much a problem of licenses, but rather about trademarks. If you run a modified version of one software, it may be in violation of their trademark to offer your version under the original name.

I have opened a related Feature request a few weeks ago.

The ticker on the front page with the section "Recent App Updates" is dynamically generated.

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@atridad I configured it to work with my existing Mailgun account as I didn't want to deal with my ISP. I had issues with them in the past regarding simpler things like billing Q's and plan changes.. imagine the horror if I ask about technical stuff 😂

For a future project, I'm going to try to run a CR home server on a residential internet plan with SPECTRUM/TIME WARNER. North American residents will understand the struggle lol.

@jdaviescoates And it would be cool if the sign up page could be customizable, with an appearance like the Element sign up page (customizable image background) rather than a bland rectangular box sign up. Something that tells them... You are about to enter an incredible place!

deploy a surfer app and some JS/HTML to take a number of different GET/POST requests and forward them

True, a very reliant and low tech solution that could work! If I don't think of something else anytime soon that's probably what I'll do. I'll update this post when I have that part working as well.

Initially I thought you were aiming at setting up a web page where you can type in any message for you/others, but that removes the API aspects which N8N is for.

No, don't want anyone just being able to send me notifications whenever 🙂

@robi Actually for me, it wasn't really scripted and was more manual in nature.

Basically ran the cloudron list command, then copied out all the WordPress manifest ID types and put it together in a command sequence like this:

cloudron push --app <www.example1.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example2.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example3.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example4.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example5.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example6.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example7.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example8.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example9.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini && \ cloudron push --app <www.example0.com> /Users/<username>/Desktop/php.ini /app/data/php.ini

...etc.

I haven't scripted it, but I will certainly look into doing that in the future if these types of tasks come up more often.

Flatpack and Appimage formats do not provide the kind of process and filesystem isolation that Docker does. I would not be comfortable running run a service like Cloudron if it allowed running things other than well-defined/managed containers.

Yes, there are ways to break isolation and escalate out of a Docker container, but flatpack apps can, essentially, write anywhere on my system. Updating the ecosystem is also much more difficult; by comparison, it is possible to auto-build Docker containers from source and track recent updates/manage timely security vulns in a way that flatpack/appimage packages do not/rarely do.

perfect, thanks, will try it out and get back if it's not working 🙂

@girish Thanks!

@d19dotca thanks, will look into all of that

@robi I checked my IP. It's not the one I posted. The IP probably changes as @girish mentioned.

Yup, we are also in DigitalOcean, AWS Markplace, Vultr as well. Time4VPS also has an image but it's outdated, unfortunately we don't control that image. If anyone knows other hosting providers where we should integrate let us know 😄 Even better if you have a contact in those providers...

I'm installing a new Cloudron and got bit by this again.. can't get mosh to work without manually tweaking iptables.

iptables -I INPUT 1 -p udp --dport 60000:60010 -j ACCEPT

@sam_uk : it's a very interesting and good discussion.

Like @scooke, I'm not sure it's my place to comment much, as it is entirely up to @girish & @nebulon how they want to take things forward.

I can certainly see that some arrangement like this would get massive thumbs-up from the OS community, and consequently could lead to a significant (huge?) uptake of Cloudron by OS enthusiasts. Meaning there could be a self-interested benefit to Cloudron doing it. But I'm not sure there is something broken which needs fixing, so maybe leave well alone.

And having said all that, as valuable and excellent a platform as Cloudron is, it's a gateway for deploying and managing OS apps. Does Cloudron itself have to be OS? It's still fantastic and I'm no less of a fan, even if it isn't. If some evil empire body does acquire it, well, life becomes less easy, rather than being directly threatened.

While the apps that I deploy on Cloudron should be OS wherever possible, it doesn't matter that much to me that the tool I am using to deploy is not OS. I just want it to continue its stability and grow its functionality even further. I use a Mac as primary desktop, and I don't stop doing so because Apple operating system is not open. Cloudron has amply demonstrated their reliability. I don't need it to be OS in order to trust it and use it.

Just my 2p, others may have different considerations.

Ah okay, totally fair then. I’ve not personally noticed things represented in MBps but if my experience doesn’t match the usual that others see then I can appreciate that view. 🙂 thanks guys.