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Perhaps it is time to think about alternatives

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  • fbartelsF fbartels

    @doodlemania2 said in Perhaps it is time to think about alternatives:

    put Mattermost into dev mode and it removes all that enterprise gimic gunk

    A quick google search did not give any further insights to this, how can you enable this? That sounds like quite some self sabotage on their side.

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    @fbartels it's for developers and "not recommended for production" but an example of how one might do that can be found here: https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost-plugin-playbooks#license
    Not advocating at all for not following the license terms, just something I observed when testing Playbooks for my own use case to avoid the constant nag.

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    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

      @fbartels it's for developers and "not recommended for production" but an example of how one might do that can be found here: https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost-plugin-playbooks#license
      Not advocating at all for not following the license terms, just something I observed when testing Playbooks for my own use case to avoid the constant nag.

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      @doodlemania2 Gah I'm sick of Rocketchat.

      It keeps hanging at the moment (since 11 day ago update) Anyone else finding this?

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      • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

        @doodlemania2 Gah I'm sick of Rocketchat.

        It keeps hanging at the moment (since 11 day ago update) Anyone else finding this?

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        @Sam_uk As in, you have to refresh the browser to see the message going through ? If so, yeah, we see the same behavior at times. Quite buggy this current release.

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        • girishG girish

          @Sam_uk As in, you have to refresh the browser to see the message going through ? If so, yeah, we see the same behavior at times. Quite buggy this current release.

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          @girish That issue seems to have been around for many versions. To compare; not having those issues with Nextcloud Talk.

          Only thing I can think Rocket Chat might be good for now, having made the switch, is the website chat widget. Although, there's better specialist apps for that on the Wishlist too.

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            @girish That issue seems to have been around for many versions. To compare; not having those issues with Nextcloud Talk.

            Only thing I can think Rocket Chat might be good for now, having made the switch, is the website chat widget. Although, there's better specialist apps for that on the Wishlist too.

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            @marcusquinn said in Perhaps it is time to think about alternatives:

            ... Rocket Chat might be good for now ... is the website chat widget. ...

            Which can also be easily implemented with Chatwoot if only a chat widget is required.

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            • micmcM micmc

              @marcusquinn said in Perhaps it is time to think about alternatives:

              ... Rocket Chat might be good for now ... is the website chat widget. ...

              Which can also be easily implemented with Chatwoot if only a chat widget is required.

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              @micmc or Freescout + Chat Module...already on Cloudron ^^

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                @girish That issue seems to have been around for many versions. To compare; not having those issues with Nextcloud Talk.

                Only thing I can think Rocket Chat might be good for now, having made the switch, is the website chat widget. Although, there's better specialist apps for that on the Wishlist too.

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                @marcusquinn We are switching slowly to Element, will update on how it goes 🙂 It's a bit complicated having to many of our customers as well.

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                • girishG girish

                  @marcusquinn We are switching slowly to Element, will update on how it goes 🙂 It's a bit complicated having to many of our customers as well.

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                  #18

                  @girish Nice, last time I looked it felt a bit clunky, but it sounds like they have a commitment to develop, so will have another look at it again too. Saying that, I'm finding Nextcloud Talk just zero effort for onboarding as everyone was already on Nextcloud Files, and seems to like that enough for it to not feel like extra effort for them to use another part of it.

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    @girish Nice, last time I looked it felt a bit clunky, but it sounds like they have a commitment to develop, so will have another look at it again too. Saying that, I'm finding Nextcloud Talk just zero effort for onboarding as everyone was already on Nextcloud Files, and seems to like that enough for it to not feel like extra effort for them to use another part of it.

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                    #19

                    @marcusquinn I see all the praise about NextCloud Talk, however at some point I'd been testing it however, it seems to work pretty well for live one on one talk, but in the other hand, I find very much annoying the constant notifications of every action and move being added to the chat thread, which renders it very difficult to follow the text chat as it is normally. Have I missed something? Or is there a way to cut that?

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                    • micmcM micmc

                      @marcusquinn I see all the praise about NextCloud Talk, however at some point I'd been testing it however, it seems to work pretty well for live one on one talk, but in the other hand, I find very much annoying the constant notifications of every action and move being added to the chat thread, which renders it very difficult to follow the text chat as it is normally. Have I missed something? Or is there a way to cut that?

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                      @micmc Notifications settings at /settings/user/notifications might offer the options you need?

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        @micmc Notifications settings at /settings/user/notifications might offer the options you need?

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                        #21

                        @nebulon Is there an easy way to go back to an older version without losing recent chats?

                        I can restore from backup, but I assume I lose recent chat history then?

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                        • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                          @nebulon Is there an easy way to go back to an older version without losing recent chats?

                          I can restore from backup, but I assume I lose recent chat history then?

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                          @Sam_uk there is no easy way, as often with updates the database schema changes and thus code and data become incompatible.

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                          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                            @micmc Notifications settings at /settings/user/notifications might offer the options you need?

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                            @marcusquinn said in Perhaps it is time to think about alternatives:

                            @micmc Notifications settings at /settings/user/notifications might offer the options you need?

                            No, I've checked that already. There doesn't seem there's a way to concise that, I thought I was maybe missing something.

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                              I was just reading this...
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/18a2624/now_that_rocketchat_65_limits_to_25_users_or_less/
                              Looks like the new 25 user limit can be config'ed back to community edition (no user limit), don't use it myself, thought it might be of interest to those that do.

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                                I stopped using Rocketchat some time ago personally. Getting on OK with Mattermost

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                                  It's time for Zulip

                                  Conscious tech

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                                    Well, I guess they think they are the biggest fish and can start all this shitty behavior. For me, I was already out after I installed it on Cloudron and then a day later I got a mail from a rocket chat employee, trying to get me to buy a license.

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                                      If I didn't have to care about GDPR compliance I'd certainly have gone Element/Matrix

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                                      • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                                        If I didn't have to care about GDPR compliance I'd certainly have gone Element/Matrix

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                                        @Sam_uk what about Matrix is not GDPR compliant? Is it the federation angle?

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @Sam_uk what about Matrix is not GDPR compliant? Is it the federation angle?

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                                          @girish
                                          https://matrix.org/blog/2018/05/08/gdpr-compliance-in-matrix/

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