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I would really like to have TubeSync on my Cloudron instance. It is more than just a regular YT downloader, as it allows you to subscribe to channels and playlists. Every new video on your desired channel will automatically get downloaded, after it got released on this channel. But the best part - to me - is the playlist sync. You can create as many playlists as you want and add them to TubeSync, which will then download all videos to specific folders. This way you can download videos using EVERY device with YouTube access. All you have to do is to add a video to one of the playlists you sync with TubeSync and your server will download those videos for you.

I created some playlists like "interesting", "work", "tech", etc and whenever I stumble upon a video I would like to preserve I simply add it to the right list and TubeSync is doing the magic for me. No need to deal with URLs (besides the one time you have to set up a source in TubeSync).

As a bonus, it can also deal with meta, you can choose how files will be named, it can also download mp3-versions of videos (so you can create music playlists out of videos) and just in case you are using Plex, it can also update Plex and add new downloaded videos to it.

Source: https://github.com/meeb/tubesync

(Not a native english speaker - so sorry for any confusions)

@micmc 2nd this. I have several domains for different purposes but I don't like to deal with several mailbox. Would like to receive all mails to all domains within the same mailbox. Hope to see this feature one time in the future.

@Kubernetes said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes:

Currently I am trying to do exactly the same. But I have problems to get the Storage Box as internal Storage in Nextcloud. How exactly did you do that?

I mounted the storage box as volume and assigned that volume to nextcloud in the settings (within cloudron - not in nextcloud) so it has access to it. I then installed the external storage app and added the volume to Nextcloud as local storage.

So 3 steps actually (which I will repeat):

1. mount as volume in cloudron settings
2. add volume to nextcloud in the cloudron apps settings for nextcloud
3. add volume as local storage within nextcloud settings

hope this helps

Hi Cloudron Community

tl;dr Has anyone here switched from Google Workspace, MS365, or a similar service to Cloudron? If so, are you still satisfied with the change, or is there anything you regret or miss from your previous service?

Long version:

I am using Google Workspace at the moment. I pay ~15 EUR per month for 5TB of storage and I use Gmail, Drive, Docs, Notes. So just given the fact that they host all the services for me with 5TB of storage for this tiny amount of money would be a no-brainer. But on the other hand I love Cloudron. I have more control over everything and my data and files are more or less in my own hands. Also I simply love hosting my own services and setting up everything.

My work is not related to any of them. I am using Google Workspace for my personal mails, files, notes, docs, etc, while my Cloudron instance is used for several community projects, a few things Google doesn't provide and also some private projects.

I am thinking about using Nextcloud, Cloudron integrated mailserver, and some of the services Cloudron offers to replace Google Workspace. I would like to know your opinions and experiences from those of you that already switched to Cloudron or Nextcloud and stuff in general.

Thanks a lot

Best,
Boris

@Kubernetes said in Reddit strike:

@Stardenver yes it is, but not if you make one part of the fediverse private?

I believe that "privat" means "closed for registration". So its not really private but access to those small or single user instances is limited. At least thats what I understand.

Gives me a bit of a headache to see this app. I mean.. its okay. You like the app, use it. Just wanted to share my opinion. I was using ttrss like 2 or 3 years ago and had a problem. I went to their support forums but couldn't really believe what I saw.

Lets just say that the developer behind ttrss is very special. As a german I may react a bit sensitive to this topic, but the developer created a gas chamber in his support forum where he deports all users who dare to criticize him or the app.

People just asked why the app is so bloated or asked him, if he thinks that a gas chamber is a appropriate category. Others talked about problems they had with their installation and well.. they all ended up in the gas chamber.

So maybe thats something you guys may want to remember in case you need to decide between ttrss, freshrss and other solutions.

@necrevistonnezr I am okay with the webinterface. I like the scroll to mark as read feature. But I must confess I don't often use it. I read like 95% or more of all post on my iPhone using a reader app that connects to freshrss.

Also the are readers for Windows and Mac that can connect and if I remember right, themes are available as well.

Hi all

Coming from Yunohost I'd like to set up my server the right way, right from the beginning. My bare metal server comes with 2x HDD in RAID 1 for storage and 2x SSD in RAID 1 for system, apps, etc.

On Yunohost I installed the system on the SSD array for max speed and modified the Nextcloud config to use the HDD array for /data. That way all apps did run fast while Nextcloud provided me plenty of storage.

So my question is, if there is some sort of best practice for this on Cloudron? Should I simply do it the same way? Or is there some sort of storage management within Cloudron that gives me some options to assign additional storage to apps? I am trying to get a good balance between speed and storage.

I could replace the SSD drives with 2 other HDD and build an array of 4x Enterprise SAS HDD. Just not sure if I will bottleneck the whole system that way. Anybody here running Cloudron on a HDD only system?

Thank you all for any feedback on this.

PS: I will use the server for mails, Mastodon, Nextcloud and maybe some "lower" apps like pastebin or freshrss.

Hi all

As I am pretty happy with Cloudron, I am considering moving my mails from Google Workspace to my Cloudron Instance. Before doing this, I would like to hear about your experiences with it. I did run my own mailservers before, but actually I was using rspamd instead and it fells like I am a bit less in control when it comes to mail-handling in Cloudron.

Are you happy with how the mail server works? What about spam? Any problems? I do have a few domains and some of them are pretty old and therefor I am always getting a few spam mails. In general I receive like 30-50 mails per day and another 20-30 spam mails. At least thats the amount of spam ending up in my spam folder. Don't know about bounced spam mails.

Can some of you guys share your experience with Cloudron as a main mail-server?

Thanks all

Hi all

Sorry, didn't know how to phrase it any better. I don't really understand how/if Cloudron is utilizing Multi-CPU-Cores. So I am wondering if - generally speaking - a server running multiple cores but on a lower frequency is better than a CPU with less cores but a higher frequency. What is more important - number of cores or frequency per core, even if less cores?

Sorry for any confusion - not a native english speaker.

Thanks a lot

@jdaviescoates said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes:

@Stardenver said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes:

use nextcloud encryption

I've read elsewhere on here that using Nextcloud encryption is a bad move because apparently "it's a joke"

Not really. Its useless within Nexloud as your hoster could still access your installation or even get his hands on your encryption keys. But it prevents external storage providers from looking into your files.

So everyone with access to your server could somehow read your files, but external storages like Google Drive, AWS, Dropbox, etc don't have access to your server files and keys and therefor can't spy onto your files. So it prevents Google and Co from reading your files.

Its a solution to protect your "outsourced" files and not those that are stored directly on your server.

Hi all

As the new (virtual) all mail folder messed up my iOS Mail I am looking for an option to turn it off as it was before. Where can I find such option?

Thanks a lot

Hi all

I know about the benefits of ECC RAM and actually we all know ECC is better than non-ECC and we could just forget about this topic^^

What I really wanna know is, how likely is a system without ECC going to fail or produce critical errors? My Cloudron server is for personal/private use only and actually all data will be backed up on several locations (homeserver, external HDD, external SSD, Online-Storage). So in case of a total data-lose I could recover all data. Its just that I want to avoid all the stress and downtime that comes with it, even though I could handle losing the server.

Money is a big point on this, as I am married and my wife doesn't think I need all those electronic gimmicks xD So right now I have to decide between ECC or better CPU und bigger storage. I would prefer the better CPU and storage but I don't know if its worth it, in case it will provide more problems to go down the non-ecc-road.

So.. anyone here has some experience with ecc systems compared to non-ecc? How likely is the non-ecc going to fail? Are there any statistics or sources with comparisons between those two options? Anything like x% of non-ecc-system failed within given years, etc.

I am really just trying to find out if ECC is more important than cpu-power and storage.

Thanks all for your input.

Hi all

Had this problem in the past, but thought I just did something wrong or a file got corrupted. But after it happened again, I did some testing. Whenever I try to restore my server from backups and a mailbox is included, it simply doesn't work. I tried it with several servers. My mailbox has about 1.7 GB - when including all mailboxes, its around 2.5GB.

I spin up a new server, install a fresh Ubuntu LTS and I install cloudron. I then choose to do a restore and I upload the config file. In case there is no mailbox included or mailbox size is just a few MB, everything works like a charm. No problems at all. But whenever my full mailbox is included, restore fails:

I tried to restore from Hetzner VPS to Netcup VPS, Hetzner to Netcup RS, from Netcup to Hetzner VPS and from Netcup and Hetzner VPS to a dedicated Hetzner server (bare metal). In all cases the results are the same: Restore fails when a larger mailbox is included. As I do external backups of all mails, its easy to test with and without mails. Whenever I delete my mailbox and start a manual backup afterward, the restore of such backup works flawless. But once I import my mails and the mailbox is bigger than 1.x GB, the next restore will fail.

Is there something like a file or size limit that causes restore to fail, once it reaches a specific size? Is there a way to exclude mails from a backup? I am fine backing up my mails with external tools. But in case a server crash occurs, I need to restore without any problems. At the moment I can't use and trust the Cloudron mailserver as it causes restores to fail.

I did like 15 tests from and to different servers and its always the same result: mailbox with 1.7GB of mails = 100% restore fails - empty mailbox or just a few MB = restore works 100%

Thanks for any help on this

PS: I am using Hetzner Storage Box via CIFS Mount as backup storage

@subven said in How to calculate required hw specs?:

you still will run into trouble sending mails to MS/Office365, GMX/WEB.de and so on Take a look at the free tiers some SMTP offer and track your daily/monthly mail volume. Also remember you can always upgrade

thats not of a big problem, as I have other solutions besides this server, just in case. Also I rarely send mails, while on the other hand I receive a lot. But like 99% of all mails are incoming mails. I will still run some tests with several providers.

@jdaviescoates I did some quick and dirty tests and so far it seems to be okay. I received mails in my Gmail account and in several others from some small and mostly german providers. Mails arrive at my webhoster.

As I don't have an MS365 account I tested outlook.com Mail was accepted from server but was moved into spam folder. I marked it as no spam and next mail arrived. Guess thats okay for me. I also checked mails with attachments (pdf).

As I already mentioned, I am sending very few mails and like 99% are incoming mails. So its okay for me.

@humptydumpty said in pricing too high:

@timconsidine said in pricing too high:

Maybe bear in mind that for many self-hosters (and Cloudron is all about self-hosting)

In spirit, maybe. In reality, Cloudron (and in extension, the CR community) caters to "developers" more than it does to the average Joe. Also, I've noticed many open source projects and developers continue to use big-tech and closed source software (Cloudflare, Google, Discord, Github, etc.). Screw big tech but is Paypal where we draw the line?

It just feels like cherry picking since the essence of self-hosting is to break away from big-tech and to preserve our data privacy and control.

Well, while you are right with what you said I don't see any big difference between PayPal and your cc provider except the fact that with PP its just one company getting your data while cc payments involve 3 parties. So from that pov PP may even be more privacy friendly (just in comparison. PP isn't privacy friendly in general). Cloudron is using a payment solution and they will - of course - get all your data. Your card is from VISA or Mastercard and therefor they will also receive a lot of your data. Last but not least your bank which handed the card to you and fulfills the payment. Don't know about your country but here in Germany a lot of people use debit cards instead of credit cards and therefor every payment requires a back-check with your bank-account and even though you may be using a real cc, a lot of data will be shared and saved from every of those 3 parties.

Hi all

Using 2 Hetzner Storage Boxes for backups and to extend storage. Mounted both as CIFS, but as Hetzner offers several ways (webdav, cifs/samba, ssh, etc) I am wondering if cifs is the best way to mount them. What do you guys use/recommend and why?

Thanks a lot

Prepare for another run onto the Fediverse.

@3246 I assume the procedure is identical in Hetzner VPS and their bare metal servers?