@murgero As i said, Preside does all what I need and handles all data (including a full-text search index) on device, only.

While looking at something different in the documentation i came across the following statement in https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/cheat-sheet/#memory-limit Design your application runtime for concurrent use by 100s of users. The Cloudron is not designed for concurrent access by 1000s of users

@LoudLemur ah ok, I didn't actually watch the video External links always worry me, thanks for clarifying.

@wind-gmbh said in Silverblue - for container-based software: But unfortunately No in regarding the ton of work that could be necessary to support Cloudron. There is another important aspect as to why Ubuntu is the underlying platform for Cloudron. A lot (if not all) hosting providers are offering servers with this os preinstalled, which makes it easy to get started with Cloudon. If MicroOS would be the (only) supported choice then Cloudron users would be limited to hosting options which either provide it by default, or allow admins to install their own os (which could be a challenge for some). If I remember correctly both Nebulon and Girish are former Suse employees, so I'd wager they would be biased towards MicroOS otherwise

Jelastic seams to be a close source version of Harvester on steroid. From what I understand, Jelastic and Harvester are kind of MetaOrchestror in the sense they can manage VM, Container, Docker Image/Swarm and Kubernetes Cluster. So in a sense; it is possible to install Cloudron inside Jelastic, or Harvester, since these can emulate an Ubuntu VM inside a Container (introduced by Rancher years ago). What Jelastic seams to bring on top of this MetaOrchestror Concept is few important points, that I would be please to see in Cloudron. Jelastic provide a billing and fencing concept called pay what you use, let's do an example :: Let's say we deploy Nextcloud for a client. In Jelastic you will be able to reserve elastically resources (CPU, MEM, HD) such as having a minimum and a maximum which help you to figure how much it will cost you at the end of the month. I mean Cloudron have something similar, but it is a little more abstract when it comes time to money. [image: 1645693416436-3e7c3e10-770f-4305-8181-0360eb42c989-image.png] Also Jelastic will lets you build bloc by bloc your application such as Nextcloud is the application but you could choose MariaDB or PostgreSQL as DB and MemCache or Redis for caching and add or not Varnish and choose between Apache, Nginx or HaProxy Where in Cloudron developers make that choice for you which obviously have PROS and CONS in both world. So anyway, yes it is possible to run Cloudron inside Jelastic by deploying an Elastic-VPS with Ubuntu https://docs.jelastic.com/vps-ubuntu/

Finally managed to get backups stable with backblaze for a ~1TB cloudron with these settings (using encryption and rsync): [image: 1645470763716-screen-shot-2022-02-21-at-11.12.07-am.png] [image: 1645470792617-screen-shot-2022-02-21-at-10.51.51-am.png] Some notes: During initial backups, memory was by far the most common failure. The amount needed was higher than I first expected for a given upload size and concurrency. I found (upload part size) x (upload concurrency) x 4 was roughly the amount needed. i.e. (64mb)*(20)*4 = ~5120mb. Scheduling backups at a time when server load is low and allotting as much memory as comfortable helped stability a lot. I ended up keeping my memory limit much higher than strictly necessary. This could probably be reduced, but stability is more important to me at the moment. In the graph above memory tended to spike once per backup- @girish maybe this is an issue that could be optimized? After initial upload, the memory required for subsequent rsyncs dropped off significantly as expected Uploading ~1TB of data with the above took approx. 24h Curious to see what others find from optimizing these further, but glad to have a working baseline in the mean time. I'm also curious to see what people's monthly bills tally up to. Waiting for the first month's bill to come in but B2 seems more cost effective than Wasabi so far!

@d19dotca this is now implemented at https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/cloudron-cli/-/commit/e321442cc2251f46b0ee2564138224015339b12d and will thus be part of next cli release.

I have made chown configurable for "mountpoint" provider in 7.1

@humptydumpty Yes I also tried Synology and it is bad. The speed is even worse. I use Rsync. I ordered a new storage box with location in Germany and everything ok.

Closest I can think of is Wekan. Maybe taiga as well, depending on your use case. OpenProject also has some roadmap feature, but I don't have experience with it.

@robi in general, having support for multiple drivers for Volumes is a good idea, but set in the Manifest standard the support for multiple volumes, could solve the issue at least partially.

Another, safer, way, would be to use the alternative paths. In my case, that would be /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB2.0-Serial-if00-port0 or /dev/serial/by-path/platform-3f980000.usb-usb-0:1.5:1.0-port0

There's this guide - https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-20/ in case you haven't seen it already. Main gotcha is that the mysql server sometimes upgrades and sometimes doesn't. In the end, we want MySQL server 8. Sometimes, it asks you whether you want to remove mysql data. Be sure not to remove it!

@andreasdueren good question, the Mautic topic is relevant as is any web hosting app, like Wordpress and Surfer. Perhaps house it in the Mautic section of the forum and mention the rest in the post so it can be found by any of those means.

@moocloud_matt said in Could someone direct me to a site dealing with open source app re-naming conventions pls?: if you offer NextCloud as a service you CAN'T offer it with the name of NextCloud Yes, I wanted to include something about this in my earlier reply, but then forgot about it. In this specific case its not much a problem of licenses, but rather about trademarks. If you run a modified version of one software, it may be in violation of their trademark to offer your version under the original name.

I have opened a related Feature request a few weeks ago.

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@atridad I configured it to work with my existing Mailgun account as I didn't want to deal with my ISP. I had issues with them in the past regarding simpler things like billing Q's and plan changes.. imagine the horror if I ask about technical stuff For a future project, I'm going to try to run a CR home server on a residential internet plan with SPECTRUM/TIME WARNER. North American residents will understand the struggle lol.