The instructions make it clear to install it on a clean VPS... so why add non-Cloudron stuff? The reason is not "control", as in Cloudron wants to control what you do with your VPS. That line of thinking is like saying, "Hey, this is MY laptop and I want to use it in the swimming pool to keep cool." The laptop manufacturer isn't going to stop you from doing what ever you want to do with your laptop, but if you want it to work, then follow the instructions! Plus, if someone goes ahead and starts adding this, or testing that, and something will break, then they are going to come here and, at best, ask for help and take up time from actual legit problems, or at worst just complain how Cloudron doesn't work. Clean VPS for installation. Keep it Clean for continued functioning.

@girish I guess you could still have Docker within an LXC container. So all that stuff would work the same, but you'd have a separate OS identity, so just one docker container per LXC containers. I'm just thinking how to enable creating apps for Simple Login, Firezone and similar, where you don't want to share ports or services with other Cloudron apps, but also they are small enough that a separate VPS, or running Proxmox, would be overkill, since resource needs would be minimal.

@jdaviescoates said in Auto-update your copyright year for static sites / surfer app owners: that everything should be free to share lemme see

@marcusquinn said in Which document collaboration software?: I think he's talking about a live editor platform tho. Yup, definetly.

@LoudLemur said in One Cloudron, Many Websites?: What if the cats wanted a discourse forum and then later so did the dogs? That's fine, other than Discourse it pretty RAM hungry. But yeah, I'm running multiple different discourse forums on different domains for different people.

@LoudLemur the only time I've ever had any issue with a Cloudron update the culprit was actually a bug in the linux kernel itself and not Cloudron's fault at all! It pretty much Just Works. That's why we all love it.

@LoudLemur I would not class Cloudron as developer tool.

@necrevistonnezr yeah, we get around 3 such posts every day. Some of them are hard to figure whether they are bots or not. Like this account has been there since 2021. I actually think it's real humans but they are spamming for unknown reasons (I don't get what or who gains from this).

@JOduMonT good idea. I think it would be nice if we had a "migrate domain" which "moves" everything - dashboard, MAIL FROM, mailboxes etc. All these are available individually but not as a single operation. Can you make a feature request?

@marcusquinn this would not make it so occasional, and provide for other automations to make it more frequent.

@nebulon oh it’s definitely not concerning to me at all. It’s just an area where I think it can be improved. To me 20% of a single core is very different than 20% of the system CPU. Seeing most of the apps at basically 0% except for the odd spike of above 20% of a single core on an 8-core system just seems like noise to me. I’d have thought it’d just be ideal if it was graphed as 20% of the system CPU instead of a single core CPU for which apps make the cut into the graph. Maybe I’m all alone on that view though

@timconsidine Looks like a rare example of genuine freemium value too. Most of the reason I'm here is because I loath per-user pricing for anything. This is much more value and merit-based... Bring your own art, or here's our business model for selling you some fully-integrated.

@girish Hey sorry.... just a quick update I found the MySQL table and was able to edit it as needed. Issue got cleared up after running a couple queries. Thanks for your help!

@girish it worked quite smoothly in the end but decided to upgrade my hosting and then have everything on one server again. Backup time and size are an issue though. Especially having to wait until one is done before editing/adding or removing apps. Having a fast local disk to backup to helps though

@jdaviescoates I did some quick and dirty tests and so far it seems to be okay. I received mails in my Gmail account and in several others from some small and mostly german providers. Mails arrive at my webhoster. As I don't have an MS365 account I tested outlook.com Mail was accepted from server but was moved into spam folder. I marked it as no spam and next mail arrived. Guess thats okay for me. I also checked mails with attachments (pdf). As I already mentioned, I am sending very few mails and like 99% are incoming mails. So its okay for me.

have you stress test your mail server .. sending more emails to see its limits ( in 1 gb ram small vps) ?

@JOduMonT ECC now has mostly the same price as non-ECC, and AMD CPU support them for years. But in general is better to have ECC if using FS that takes advantage of that, BTRFS, ZFS. Or if you use TMPFS. But if you care about latency then normal RAM is better, ECC slows down communication.

@fbartels Oh sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying that.

@girish said in Cloudron Support for Cloudron as it's supposed to be installed, and a separate Category for other methods: how do you think creating categories will help? I think the idea is that the rest of us who install on an Ubuntu VPS can just ignore that other category!