why not simply manage a local cloudron.local domain in hosts or local DNS then?

@girish Yes yes, this would only be for development purposes (since placing the token in CloudronManifest would, of course, be silly). This would be just to pass the healthcheck so I don't expose anything while developing on a public domain. Thanks for letting me know it'll work, it'll help with an app I'm porting.

@Hillside502 I was trying using my personal Halifax debit card, on a UK account. It was unclear if it's a problem with my card specifically or the bank... The company I'm paying on behalf of has a bank account but no credit card, I'm not sure if it has a debit card, will find out.

@robi Right, so the issue may be on the storage side. Now that you mention it, my object storage is inaccessible…

@lucidfox rsync + encryption has file path length limitations i.e if your app has a file which has long path (not just the file name, maybe it is some 10 folders deep) the backup will error. The limitations are documented here https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#encryption . @Robin opened a feature request here to improve this - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3057/consider-improvements-to-the-backup-experience-to-support-long-filenames-directory-names

@girish that’s perfect, great detective work! Thanks Girish for working to solve that. I really appreciate it. I’ll keep an eye on it in my server you patched and see if the issue comes back. Thanks again!

@nebulon My pleasure, one of my superpowers.

I see. Maybe that's because mailtrain adds unsubscribe headers in the email header etc. I don't really know of any other bulk mailer software. Are you able to contact the support of turbo mailer and ask them if they support STARTLS at all?

@scooke Yes yes, that's how it's supposed to work, correct. It doesn't work that way with Wordpress Multisite. You change the domain on Cloudron and the whole app breaks. I'll be fixing that in a future update to the Wordpress Unmanaged App package tho since that's the app I really want to work on. ️

@mehdi That’s exactly what I’m going to do. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I will do a merge request post 6.0 for first-class official Multisite support; I’ve got a list of 4 things to change to support Multisite now - I’m hoping I can get them all done in 2021! ️

@nebulon That's not to say that I don't think Cloudron shouldn't receive webhooks for other reasons. I'm surprised you aren't using them for your multi-cloudron dashboard actually (to update the status of "subcontainers" from all servers instantly).

I gotcha, I'll post again about it next year to see if there's interest. It's cool that the mail server's "my" was made optional. I'm glad you're open to revisiting this later because, maybe I'll have gotten so use to it by then that I won't even request it again.

@nebulon Oh, I have no intention of moving from the cloud and have no reason to run it at home. It would just make my development flow for the OpenVPN Client app I'm working on faster since it'd be localhost (my everyday work laptop). But, like I said, due to the way you guys designed cloudron build and cloudron update, it's actually pretty fast even in the cloud. One of my favorite aspects about your platform so far - ease of development. So I'll just keep doing that...well, I guess I could keep switching it back and forth, developing locally and then seeing how it performs in the cloud after the app is finished. I don't use Cloudron for anything production related right now, I'm just happily building apps to see how far we can take this platform.

@jdaviescoates said in Ubuntu Reboot to install updates left some Apps not responding: It is even possible for them to show as Not responding in the Dashboard but for them to actually be running? Yes. The 'Not responding' is simply based on a periodic health check. This can fail because of two reasons: a) some internal bug that is causing cron job to check health not firing. and b) the health check route of app returns a non-2xx http code. this can happen if your app is totally "protected" like say an auth screen on the main page with a 401/403 status. In the above two cases, the app itself is actually running and can be accessed from the browser but the dashboard will say 'not responding'. a) is a bug and b) is more of a Cloudron limitation, I think (this happens often in LAMP apps).

@jdaviescoates said in Nextcloud says 5.3GB used, Cloudron says Nextcloud is 19.16GB, why?: That's "just" a difference of 2.66GB (which I guess could mostly be just Nextcloud files themselves) So, assuming that is mostly just Nextcloud files themselves (I may do a clean install at some point just to see how big that is), I think this can be marked as solved.

OK, that wasn't the issue. We have an issue with the Cloudron 5.6.1 release that http://ip will serve up a random app. This is because we ended up removing 'default_server' and the nginx behavior is to serve up the first server it finds. Not the end of the world, but not nice. This issue has been fixed now. I thought the above was the reason you were getting served up some other app when you put an app in repair mode. I tested it now, but this is not the case. If you can duplicate this and let me know, I would like to have a look.

I can confirm that, now that the lifecycle settings are correct, backups get physically deleted from B2.

@andrewj720 Looks like DNS is not working on your server. You can also try host cloudron.io etc, I guess none of it working? Can you check if your cloud firewall allows outbound port 53 UDP ? I think there was a post on this forum some time ago that someone had it blocked in AWS security group by mistake, for example.

In Cloudron 5.6, we added a way to whitelist additional incoming ports - https://docs.cloudron.io/networking/#whitelist-ports