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how embarrassing. You're absolutely right. I was searching after ghosts.

@necrevistonnezr excellent catch! I think I searched “email” when I should have just searched “mail”. There may be a couple others I missed.

excited for v9! but this feature would still be really amazing! And if I am not mistaking it shouldnt be too complex to force an external mx lookup?

Okay... I may be on the side of this working properly again. lol. Maybe I've been wrong this whole time in thinking it wasn't working correctly. So coincidentally I was checking the mail server logs and saw another example of the same message go through to the same recipient from the same mail server, it was listed in the logs as "just now" so I quickly checked mxtoolbox and found that only 4 at that time had been listed, none of which were ones I was using. Here is how it looked at the very moment I checked when it was "just now" in the logs: [image: 1616004904806-69bc5a02-12ca-420e-958a-27405c21f7ed-image-resized.png] [image: 1616004923806-07b937c4-4840-4c14-887b-7513acc87251-image-resized.png] Edit: Checking about 6 minutes later, I see the blocklists have aleady been updated for more (Spamhaus Zen in this case would have caught it if it were about 5 minutes earlier): [image: 1616005021879-4522d168-dc21-498f-845b-885cfe0a73a1-image-resized.png] So I guess we can probably mark this as resolved, as I now see conclusive evidence that the various blocklists used just didn't have it listed until a few minutes after the message was received. I guess in order for it to adapt so quickly this spam attack on one of my users from those mail servers must be right at the beginning of a spam wave. Kind of neat actually to see how real-time these lists are. haha.

@d19dotca since the email is forwarded , this info is probably lost. One idea is to look into the bounce mail headers. Maybe there is some message I'd or something we can match.

@mdreira said in Lightmeter - Mail server delivery monitoring: What mail server does Cloudron use? Exim? This is what Cloudron uses for smpt: https://haraka.github.io/

Nevermind, I did not realize sendgrid setup was only for sending email, I see the other parts to setup for receiving email now. Please disregard.

@dantheman https://mxtoolbox.com/emailhealth is another good one.

If you go down this route, be sure to search via roundcube or SOGo and not rainloop because the latter does not support recursive search. A while ago @samir shared a recipe with me to make doveadm work, let me see if that still works when I find the time.

@girish Gotchya, ok. Makes sense, thank you

+1 for this feature. Especially, that zen.spamhaus.org, the default mail DNSBL used by Cloudron has a very harsh policy with ipv6 email. If one IP on a /64 ipv6 range is blacklisted, all the IP in that range get blacklisted :S.

@girish Will do

@girish When will this be exposed in the GUI? Hopefully this can be planned for 7.4 perhaps, along with the many other mail improvements requested?

@girish Awesome thanks.

Actually, it seems a better way to confirm this is the apt package version and not the dovecot version. The latest one (i.e one which will be in next release) shows this: root@e4d2eb1cba0b:/app/haraka# apt list --installed 2>/dev/null | grep dovecot-core dovecot-core/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:2.2.33.2-1ubuntu4.7 amd64 [installed] The current cloudron container has 1:2.2.33.2-1ubuntu4.6

@klawitterb If you can open a feature request in https://forum.cloudron.io/category/97/feature-requests, we can schedule it accordingly based on the interest. Thanks!

Yup. I went with setting it at the app level (nodemailer method). I was just curious if this was in any way masked at the cloudron platform side. Thanks for the clarification @girish

@girish said in Use Cloudron email for sending email (smtp) on application hosted outside Cloudron: @andirahmat You can test this with swaks. swaks -server my.xxx.yyy:587 -tls --auth-user abc@xxx.yyy --auth-password password --to test@somemail.com --from abc@xxx.yyy I've tried this command and works well. The problem is the app, still waiting for the developer response. Thank you @girish

@marcusquinn @d19dotca @girish @nebulon Dear All, many thank's for answer. As I saw in the folders, Iphone has two kind of sent message folders: Sent Message Sent So as @d19dotca and @marcusquinn stated, on Thunderbird emails was saved in "Sent", but on iphone in "Sent Messages". When I configured emails who was on Cpanel iphone saved emails in "Sent". But when I configured email from Cloudron, iphone saved email in Sent Messages. Thant's why it was like I had missing email from Thunderbird and vice versa. Workaround is to configure the same folder and when adding Cloudron email on iphone, be sure to follow @d19dotca instruction. Thank's a lot! [image: 1606643259222-img_2488-resized.png]