Sponsored App Creation
@jdaviescoates Sure, I have an awkward situation to handle at the mo, while going through a business review, otherwise I'd be much more budget happy — but I can sneak our a few pounds/euros/dollars here and there through Paypal to help the cause if anyone needs to justify their time on these things.
Odoo & 4minitz would help a lot, and I think be very good for the community.
NodeRED is a bit more specialist but useful to many developers.
Trying to avoid distracting the core team because their roadmap is equally valuable, so don't want to jump the queue on that.
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@marcusquinn Send the Git links of Odoo + 4minitz and I'll take a look! ️
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@Lonk I think @samir started something with Odoo but it needs work:
4minitz is a new request but more detail here:
I can probably sneak out a few hundred bucks in compensation but I have to be a bit respectful at the mo on that since I should be giving my own team bonuses that are waiting on a few business developments.
if you get a gitpod link to the various WIP apps, i'm sure more folks will pitch in since it's easy to collaborate.
@marcusquinn Sounds good to me, I like to learn and think this is a great learning opportunity for me! Do you have any special requirements aside from converting it into a Cloudron app? And do you need both apps converted or just 4minitz?
Seems to be 3 x Odoo:
2 x Directus:
Nothing for 4minitz yet but I think I just reignited interest in that.
@Lonk Just that I have to focus on my day-job and family-care needs at the mo, so really just getting things Cloudron App Store approved, launch and go. Forum chat I can manage as it's just another chat app in my chatty day. My days of getting to dig into anything more than that are long gone I'm afraid, that's the price of getting old, you have more people relying on you not being on a computer
For that to happen they need the unit-tests written:
@Lonk Sorry, didn't answer fully. Yeah, Odoo & 4minitz would help a lot right now. Odoo I have a load of work on another VPS I could shut down if I could migrate it here.
4minitz I think will help anyone with a company or team.
I'm hoping for Direcutus too, which @murgero kindly started. I detailed more on the forum thread for that as to why.
They are the kind of apps I can quickly help a bunch of people with, in our own business and others.
Also they are the kind of apps that I think will give a lot of features that just any user or developer would find inspiring, either working with them or replicating features from.
@marcusquinn Completely understand that! I have a yearning to learn tho so, just list out your priorities (so I know what app to work on first), and as I convert each one and get them approved to the Cloudron App Store, we can talk about doing the next one (if needed, other people might be working on the other two for their own reasons)?
Thanks for the automated test forum link, I didn't realize that was needed and will add that to my OpenVPN Client app as well! ️
- 4minitz (it just jumped the queue as I could use that for my biz and friends biz straight away)
- Take ya pick: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2798/sponsored-app-creation/12
@marcusquinn Thanks for sending me those extra resources that I'll likely need to get my first app into the App Store; I'll let ya know as soon as I make this Cloudron App Store ready!
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Have you tried it? Use the "Try it Now" button and feed it a github/gitlab project link.
Self hosted it would be adapted to the git.cloudron.io domain. https://www.gitpod.io/blog/gitpod-self-hosted-0.4.0/
Yeah, it's an interesting tech. Incredibly useful on the go and for people that don't have dedicated software license for professional code IDE's. I really liked playing with it, but my Desktop apps just run much faster.
Perhaps you could describe and show a how-to setup your desktop app dev environment for those looking to get started.
For everyone else, there's GitPod, plus the ability to co-create with others (up-to 5 people) in the same environment.
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@robi I plan doing a complete run through for getting a Cloudron Development up and running on your desktop (a tutorial post on the Custom Apps forum category). But, right now, mine is pretty hacked together since I just started developing for this platform 1.5 weeks ago. So, my setup is not something I'm proud of rn, despite it technically working (inefficiently).
Meant to post this here:
Be good if there was a way to make Upvotes developer sponsorship pledges!
$100 = 10 App Wishlist Sponsorship Upvotes. I don't mind sponsoring a few things here and there - but developers have to eat, so I think if everyone wants specific apps, start pledging some Paypal dollars in the Wishlist threads to feed the hungry
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@marcusquinn I think my ideal scenario would be something like
- Cloudron 6.0 fully open source again
- Cloudron sets-up an Open Collective
- All subscription monies get paid into the collective and all monies coming in/ out totally transparent (this is one of the really nice features of open collective) - sadly in reality this might not make much sense because of default %'s taken out - although OC recently started trialing 0% fees (still payment processor fees, obviously) with pay it forward option for contributors.
- Option for people to pay more money into the collective should the so choose and have the means. Either lump sum or regular amount (both are already supported).
- Developers who make wished-for apps can also be paid out of the collective and everything is totally transparent.
Or something like that. I open source and I total transparency (Buffer, for example, are really great on this, see https://buffer.com/about#transparency )
Sure, in the meantime, knowing how business can stretch developers thin - let's help them with the PR around the interweb as more subscribers equals more funds to recruit
To conclude this thread, new forum section to get involved:
Can't edit any comments after a time now, so adding this to the sponsoring wishlist:
@marcusquinn I made you a mod for this category. Can you check if you can edit now?
@girish Danke, that works
I would love to contribute to the packaging of pretix and a couple of others too.
Can we set up a bounty pool for each of these so that we can commit/contribute to?
@jagan there are a few ways to accelerate this process..
- have packaging meetups as a group (large, small)
- have a first attempt by yourself and post progress in a thread here to get help in getting to the next step towards completion
- sponsor an app request, and many here will chime in to lead that development
- actively promote/hire for others to package their own or others apps for the community
- insert other ideas here: __________
There's clearly room and a need for a full-time Cloudron App packager and maintainer, given that the current experience has competing interests for time.
It's the fairest and smartest way I can see to get any more momentum in this area — you're not getting any younger either
@marcusquinn I wouldn't mind being a part-time packager.
@murgero +10 upvotes to you sir!
I second @murgero in that I would also be interested in being a part-time packager!
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@marcusquinn : very interesting suggestion and I am not against it at all.
With my business hat on, there is immediately the question of how much price increase, how many paying users, how much increased business .... vs .... the cost of a full-time resource. Not being negative, it might turn out a very viable formula.
Really excited by the 2 volunteers already spoken up for a part-time role. They have system knowledge already (minimal learning curve) and good track-record.
And we have to remember that full-time resource is a risk also (holidays, sickness, career path, competence).
A team of paid part-timers might be a very good interim phase until the business side is clear.
Just my 2p. Hats off to you @marcusquinn for thinking out loud.
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Yes, this is what we've all been feeling and waiting for, no?
Building a business needs tools, and self-hosting needs to keep up with those needs.
Let's revive the weekly community packaging events, help out the staff and help ourselves.