Sponsored App Creation

[marcusquinn]

@robi Interesting, not seen that before, we're mostly Atom / Jetbrains & GitHub Desktop / CLI. Is git.cloudron.io already setup with GitPod or is that the proposal?

[robi]

@marcusquinn
Have you tried it? Use the "Try it Now" button and feed it a github/gitlab project link.

Self hosted it would be adapted to the git.cloudron.io domain. https://www.gitpod.io/blog/gitpod-self-hosted-0.4.0/

https://www.gitpod.io/docs/

[Lonkle]

Yeah, it's an interesting tech. Incredibly useful on the go and for people that don't have dedicated software license for professional code IDE's. I really liked playing with it, but my Desktop apps just run much faster.

[robi]

@Lonk
Perhaps you could describe and show a how-to setup your desktop app dev environment for those looking to get started.

For everyone else, there's GitPod, plus the ability to co-create with others (up-to 5 people) in the same environment.

[Lonkle]

@robi I plan doing a complete run through for getting a Cloudron Development up and running on your desktop (a tutorial post on the Custom Apps forum category). But, right now, mine is pretty hacked together since I just started developing for this platform 1.5 weeks ago. So, my setup is not something I'm proud of rn, despite it technically working (inefficiently).

[marcusquinn]

Meant to post this here:

Be good if there was a way to make Upvotes developer sponsorship pledges!

$100 = 10 App Wishlist Sponsorship Upvotes. I don't mind sponsoring a few things here and there - but developers have to eat, so I think if everyone wants specific apps, start pledging some Paypal dollars in the Wishlist threads to feed the hungry

[jdaviescoates]

jdaviescoates
jdaviescoates 5 minutes ago

@marcusquinn I think my ideal scenario would be something like

1. Cloudron 6.0 fully open source again
2. Cloudron sets-up an Open Collective
3. All subscription monies get paid into the collective and all monies coming in/ out totally transparent (this is one of the really nice features of open collective) - sadly in reality this might not make much sense because of default %'s taken out - although OC recently started trialing 0% fees (still payment processor fees, obviously) with pay it forward option for contributors.
4. Option for people to pay more money into the collective should the so choose and have the means. Either lump sum or regular amount (both are already supported).
5. Developers who make wished-for apps can also be paid out of the collective and everything is totally transparent.

Or something like that. I open source and I total transparency (Buffer, for example, are really great on this, see https://buffer.com/about#transparency )

[marcusquinn]

Sure, in the meantime, knowing how business can stretch developers thin - let's help them with the PR around the interweb as more subscribers equals more funds to recruit

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2877/upvote-and-review-cloudron-on-all-the-alternative-to-type-websites-to-help-grow-the-team-and-community

[marcusquinn]

To conclude this thread, new forum section to get involved:

• https://forum.cloudron.io/category/104/help-wanted-or-offered

[marcusquinn]

Can't edit any comments after a time now, so adding this to the sponsoring wishlist:

• https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1202/restyaboard-trello-like-kanban-board

[girish]

@marcusquinn I made you a mod for this category. Can you check if you can edit now?

[marcusquinn]

@girish Danke, that works

[jagan]

@marcusquinn said in Sponsored App Creation:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1067/pretix-ticketing-software-that-cares-about-your-event-all-the-way

I would love to contribute to the packaging of pretix and a couple of others too.
Can we set up a bounty pool for each of these so that we can commit/contribute to?

Thank you

[robi]

@jagan there are a few ways to accelerate this process..

• have packaging meetups as a group (large, small)
• have a first attempt by yourself and post progress in a thread here to get help in getting to the next step towards completion
• sponsor an app request, and many here will chime in to lead that development
• actively promote/hire for others to package their own or others apps for the community
• insert other ideas here: __________

[marcusquinn]

There's clearly room and a need for a full-time Cloudron App packager and maintainer, given that the current experience has competing interests for time.

@girish @nebulon Can you just put prices up a bit and hire a full-timer please?

It's the fairest and smartest way I can see to get any more momentum in this area — you're not getting any younger either

[murgero]

@marcusquinn I wouldn't mind being a part-time packager.

[marcusquinn]

@murgero +10 upvotes to you sir!

[thetomester13]

I second @murgero in that I would also be interested in being a part-time packager!

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn : very interesting suggestion and I am not against it at all.

With my business hat on, there is immediately the question of how much price increase, how many paying users, how much increased business .... vs .... the cost of a full-time resource. Not being negative, it might turn out a very viable formula.

And I am not asking for answers to any of that, that's @girish and @nebulon business. I hope they don't answer, because that's a slippery information slope.

Really excited by the 2 volunteers already spoken up for a part-time role. They have system knowledge already (minimal learning curve) and good track-record.

And we have to remember that full-time resource is a risk also (holidays, sickness, career path, competence).

A team of paid part-timers might be a very good interim phase until the business side is clear.

Just my 2p. Hats off to you @marcusquinn for thinking out loud.

[robi]

Yes, this is what we've all been feeling and waiting for, no?

Building a business needs tools, and self-hosting needs to keep up with those needs.

Let's revive the weekly community packaging events, help out the staff and help ourselves.