@nebulon oh it’s definitely not concerning to me at all. It’s just an area where I think it can be improved. To me 20% of a single core is very different than 20% of the system CPU. Seeing most of the apps at basically 0% except for the odd spike of above 20% of a single core on an 8-core system just seems like noise to me. I’d have thought it’d just be ideal if it was graphed as 20% of the system CPU instead of a single core CPU for which apps make the cut into the graph. Maybe I’m all alone on that view though

@timconsidine Looks like a rare example of genuine freemium value too. Most of the reason I'm here is because I loath per-user pricing for anything. This is much more value and merit-based... Bring your own art, or here's our business model for selling you some fully-integrated.

@girish Hey sorry.... just a quick update I found the MySQL table and was able to edit it as needed. Issue got cleared up after running a couple queries. Thanks for your help!

@girish it worked quite smoothly in the end but decided to upgrade my hosting and then have everything on one server again. Backup time and size are an issue though. Especially having to wait until one is done before editing/adding or removing apps. Having a fast local disk to backup to helps though

@jdaviescoates I did some quick and dirty tests and so far it seems to be okay. I received mails in my Gmail account and in several others from some small and mostly german providers. Mails arrive at my webhoster. As I don't have an MS365 account I tested outlook.com Mail was accepted from server but was moved into spam folder. I marked it as no spam and next mail arrived. Guess thats okay for me. I also checked mails with attachments (pdf). As I already mentioned, I am sending very few mails and like 99% are incoming mails. So its okay for me.

have you stress test your mail server .. sending more emails to see its limits ( in 1 gb ram small vps) ?

@JOduMonT ECC now has mostly the same price as non-ECC, and AMD CPU support them for years. But in general is better to have ECC if using FS that takes advantage of that, BTRFS, ZFS. Or if you use TMPFS. But if you care about latency then normal RAM is better, ECC slows down communication.

@fbartels Oh sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying that.

@girish said in Cloudron Support for Cloudron as it's supposed to be installed, and a separate Category for other methods: how do you think creating categories will help? I think the idea is that the rest of us who install on an Ubuntu VPS can just ignore that other category!

@Stardenver said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes: Scares me a bit now. Yeah, I'm generally a bit scared of encryption unless it's all automated by some app like Signal or whatever. I'm always worried something will go wrong or I'll forget/ loose my pw and loose access to my own files. I tend to feel that in my own personal circumstances that is a greater risk than someone nefarious managing to access my unencrypted files, so I mostly just don't encrypt stuff. But this sounds like a pretty good method of getting Ubuntu's full disk encryption set-up with Cloudron (so long as you store you passwords safely, like in a password manager and printed out on paper, and maybe somewhere else too for good measure): https://forum.cloudron.io/post/59269 For now though, I reckon my files are safe enough behind insanely long passwords plus 2FA

@LoudLemur As @scooke mentioned, there is a blog about it, but the basic steps are the same. Difference here is opening the ports on your modem (or firewall) manually. The defaults are gonna be 25, 465, 587, 993, 443, & 80 (basic email and web server functionality) though according to that blog post, only 443 is required

@3246 it’s stories/situations like these where Cloudron can benefit the most by ironing out any bugs and optimizing things to account for all possible scenarios, user fault or otherwise.

Indeed, as @murgero said, it's not a priority for us.

@girish said in Hetzner now offering some useful pre-built "Apps" for server instances.: know who to contact in hetzner for this? No, I'm sorry but I do not know whom to contact in Hetzner regarding this matter.

@robi On that, I don't have the data or experience to talk. But 100% sure you can't use wasabi latency, I think smb or better NFS should be a better option, but I'm not an expert. and Using so much ram for it, im not big fun about it, but I would have to try it before to have a real feedback

@ekevu123 I hear you... it's working now, so let's get on with work! I'd personally be still very concerned to figure out what happened. You wrote, Cloudron blocks the server running the license immediately including all 8 applications for our company when all code points to that NOT being the cause of not accessing the server apps. "Something caused our sites to be unaccessible" is basically what happened, and you still don't know what that something was. As for my last struck-out line, I was just thinking out loud, not trying to level accusations. I've read many support requests that end up being something wrong on the server, not Cloudron, so insisting it had to be Cloudron seems odd. Happy new year!

To piggyback on this conversation.. The current subscription cost is around 15/month if bought yearly. What if the entire pricing model was updated? 2 apps: free 5 apps: 10/month, month to month, 100/yearly 10 apps: 15/month, month to month, 150/yearly Unlimited: 20/month, month to month, 200/yearly Enterprise: unknown costs/use cases

@marcusquinn said in Google "just discovered" PGP for Gmail (if you pay): more appeasement than complete privacy Except it is not about privacy, but checking a checkbox for compliance rules of Fortune 500 companies. To be honest it would have been nice if Google actually made some innovation here, since both PGP and S/MIME are conceptually broken, but sadly they only added native S/MIME capabilities to the Gmail ui and management tooling.