@mehdi you're right, my poor choice of words..
apt is a binary that can call libapt-pkg libraries and provides a subset of interactive options and commands for apt-get/cache by default.
apt-get is not limited to those options.
@robi Installing apps from the store en masse can't be common. I think rn it's flow is best for an average user, but it could be a little more mobile app store like with an "installing" progress bar while you discover other apps, and then it pops up with "installed, click to open" or something via Notifications. I could see it, but again - installing apps isn't common enough I don't think to worry about this since installing is a one-time task.
But I'm glad you brought it up because it would add a bit of polish to have a more "app store" feel to it. Still allowing app discovery while an app's installing. I think Cloudron should be able to do that one day even if it doesn't feel like a priority rn.
@scooke said in Installation on an AWS EC2 server (T2.Micro) at AWS China hangs:
@andreas True, it doesn't matter where the host company, or head office is located. Anything in China, for China, is going to be under lots of scrutiny.
Unfortunately true, we must accept this learning curve.
@msbt said in Cloudron install failed when motd-news don't exist.:
had the same issue, @nebulon already fixed that two days ago: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/23474c97528893dbc25b47d68441d3cc0c6de6b3
Thank for the reply, it is always nice to not feel alone with specific issue
Girish's note is also documented (though not super obvious) here at the very bottom of the page: https://cloudron.io/documentation/backups/#move-cloudron-to-another-server
@girish said in Install Link 404 Error:
@woke You caught us in the middle of a transition of our server. Can you try again?
It is working now, thank you!
@joerodge I guess you got this sorted out by the time I approved your forum post? I can access your dashboard here:
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As @scooke and @mehdi already mentioned, the sole reason to support only one distribution is the reduced complexity by having to deal with only a single well known system. Even different ubuntu versions require quite a lot of testing and different code. Sometimes package names change for example. We essentially just settled on Ubuntu 16.04 initially since that was available on basically every VPS provider. Really that is the main concern for us. Naturally for security updates we then progressed to 18.04 and will soon hopefully support 20.04. Other distros with even other package managers are simply just overhead and cause trouble to users. In the end from what Cloudron requires, there will hardly be any noticeable difference in speed or resources use between any of the distros, so we lean towards stability here.
@mehdi Not sure I know enough yet about handling updates, patches & security so just running in good faith on all that at the mo.
Happy? Yes.
Confident? Sure - until something goes wrong
Just always thinking about prevention being better than cure.
@girish Thanks for the assistance.
Apparently this was caused by a misconfigured IPv6 / Ubuntu installation script which my host helped me diagnose and correct. Thank you for your help, I'm glad I stumbled upon Cloudron.
The netcup image for VPS, Root and Dedicated servers is still there and working. "Latest" would be Ubuntu 20.04 but the image is still based on Ubuntu 18.04 with is fine. The Cloudron version will always be latest because of the auto update on installation. I'm using Netcup and the image on various cloudrons and never had an issue so you should be fine.
@cyanogenic Did you install/enable any nextcloud plugins? This usually happens when one of the nextcloud plugins is not too happy. Try this https://cloudron.io/documentation/apps/nextcloud/#fixing-a-broken-install . Or if you have nothing important in it, I would just re-install nextcloud.
