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  • LonkleL Offline
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    Lonkle
    wrote on last edited by
    #51

    Yeah, it's an interesting tech. Incredibly useful on the go and for people that don't have dedicated software license for professional code IDE's. I really liked playing with it, but my Desktop apps just run much faster.

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    • LonkleL Lonkle

      Yeah, it's an interesting tech. Incredibly useful on the go and for people that don't have dedicated software license for professional code IDE's. I really liked playing with it, but my Desktop apps just run much faster.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #52

      @Lonk
      Perhaps you could describe and show a how-to setup your desktop app dev environment for those looking to get started.

      For everyone else, there's GitPod, plus the ability to co-create with others (up-to 5 people) in the same environment.

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @Lonk
        Perhaps you could describe and show a how-to setup your desktop app dev environment for those looking to get started.

        For everyone else, there's GitPod, plus the ability to co-create with others (up-to 5 people) in the same environment.

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        wrote on last edited by Lonkle
        #53

        @robi I plan doing a complete run through for getting a Cloudron Development up and running on your desktop (a tutorial post on the Custom Apps forum category). But, right now, mine is pretty hacked together since I just started developing for this platform 1.5 weeks ago. So, my setup is not something I'm proud of rn, despite it technically working (inefficiently).

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        • marcusquinnM Offline
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          marcusquinn
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          #54

          Meant to post this here:

          Be good if there was a way to make Upvotes developer sponsorship pledges!

          $100 = 10 App Wishlist Sponsorship Upvotes. I don't mind sponsoring a few things here and there - but developers have to eat, so I think if everyone wants specific apps, start pledging some Paypal dollars in the Wishlist threads to feed the hungry 😉

          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
          Development https://brandlight.org
          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            Meant to post this here:

            Be good if there was a way to make Upvotes developer sponsorship pledges!

            $100 = 10 App Wishlist Sponsorship Upvotes. I don't mind sponsoring a few things here and there - but developers have to eat, so I think if everyone wants specific apps, start pledging some Paypal dollars in the Wishlist threads to feed the hungry 😉

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            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by
            #55

            jdaviescoates
            jdaviescoates 5 minutes ago

            @marcusquinn I think my ideal scenario would be something like

            1. Cloudron 6.0 fully open source again
            2. Cloudron sets-up an Open Collective
            3. All subscription monies get paid into the collective and all monies coming in/ out totally transparent (this is one of the really nice features of open collective) - sadly in reality this might not make much sense because of default %'s taken out - although OC recently started trialing 0% fees (still payment processor fees, obviously) with pay it forward option for contributors.
            4. Option for people to pay more money into the collective should the so choose and have the means. Either lump sum or regular amount (both are already supported).
            5. Developers who make wished-for apps can also be paid out of the collective and everything is totally transparent.

            Or something like that. I ❤ open source and I ❤ total transparency (Buffer, for example, are really great on this, see https://buffer.com/about#transparency )

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              #56

              Sure, in the meantime, knowing how business can stretch developers thin - let's help them with the PR around the interweb as more subscribers equals more funds to recruit 🙂

              https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2877/upvote-and-review-cloudron-on-all-the-alternative-to-type-websites-to-help-grow-the-team-and-community

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
              Development https://brandlight.org
              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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              • marcusquinnM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #57

                To conclude this thread, new forum section to get involved:

                • https://forum.cloudron.io/category/104/help-wanted-or-offered

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • marcusquinnM Offline
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                  #58

                  Can't edit any comments after a time now, so adding this to the sponsoring wishlist:

                  • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1202/restyaboard-trello-like-kanban-board

                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    Can't edit any comments after a time now, so adding this to the sponsoring wishlist:

                    • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1202/restyaboard-trello-like-kanban-board
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                    girish
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                    #59

                    @marcusquinn I made you a mod for this category. Can you check if you can edit now?

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                    • girishG girish

                      @marcusquinn I made you a mod for this category. Can you check if you can edit now?

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                      marcusquinn
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                      #60

                      @girish Danke, that works 🙂

                      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        We can sponsor the following for anyone wanting to get paid to package?

                        Need these to migrate over our current instances:

                        1. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2763/4minitz-free-webapp-for-taking-meeting-minutes (sponsoring @Lonk )
                        2. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3282/croodle-alternative-to-doodle (sponsoring @murgero )
                        3. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1256/odoo-distributed-business-apps (sponsoring @Lonk )
                        4. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1596/node-red-flow-based-programming-for-the-internet-of-things
                        5. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1227/grafana-metric-analytic-dashboard (done @jimcavoli )
                        6. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2812/prometheus-monitoring-time-series-database
                        7. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1239/guacamole-remote-desktop (done @doodlemania2 )
                        8. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2813/icinga2
                        9. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2811/logstash
                        10. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2810/kibana-browser-for-elastic-stack
                        11. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2814/tabula-extracts-table-data-from-pdfs-when-copy-paste-often-doesn-t
                        12. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1179/locust-load-testing-tool
                        13. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1654/atlassian-jira-the-1-software-development-tool-used-by-agile-teams (done, internally packaged)

                        Need solutions for:

                        1. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1743/directus-headless-cms-and-data-driven-framework-open-source-alternative-to-contentful (done by @murgero )
                        2. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1939/n8n-io-zappier-ifttt-integromat-alternative (sponsoring @murgero )
                        3. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1202/restyaboard-trello-like-kanban-board
                        4. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2815/live-helper-chat-with-co-browsing (sponsoring @murgero )
                        5. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1059/akaunting-free-accounting-software (sponsoring @murgero )
                        6. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1067/pretix-ticketing-software-that-cares-about-your-event-all-the-way
                        7. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3001/astuto-for-user-customer-feedback-and-roadmap
                        8. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1274/easy-appointments
                        9. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1668/fosspay-donation-collection-for-foss-groups-and-individuals (sponsoring @murgero )
                        10. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1911/identihub-open-source-brand-asset-management
                        11. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2872/cattr-time-tracking
                        12. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2996/kresus-free-libre-personal-management-software
                        13. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2375/datafire-an-even-better-zapier-alternative
                        14. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2935/vuls-io-server-app-security-monitoring
                        15. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2803/dreamfactory-api-management
                        16. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2352/stackstorm-zapier-alternative
                        17. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2759/strapi-open-source-node-js-headless-cms-to-easily-build-customisable-apis
                        18. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2966/rss-to-activitypub-for-ghost-wordpress-etc-rss-feed-posting-to-the-fediverse
                        19. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1101/open-xchange-groupware
                        20. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2905/gluu
                        21. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1102/huginn-a-system-for-building-agents-that-perform-automated-tasks-for-you-online
                        22. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2805/worldbrain-s-memex
                        23. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2909/fusionauth
                        24. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2932/payid-org-server

                        Looking at the current rate of App packaging and launch on Cloudron, I can only guess all this might take 5 years unless there's something I'm missing.

                        So many great Apps but I'm not getting any closer to app system consolidation without having a bunch of these. How can we speed this packaging process up?

                        Sorry, I'd love to learn and do but just can't neglect current duties right now. What I can do is divert a bit of budget if that helps.

                        If the community here is in a similar position, perhaps we can have a whip-round and contribute to recruiting for this?

                        I also have some seriously decent privacy-conscious client potential for all of this - but we have to dog-food anything before we can promote it.

                        Very happy with Cloudron - all features definitely going in a great direction - but how do we get more Apps into the Store faster? That App Request list is going up faster than down.

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                        jagan
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #61

                        @marcusquinn said in Sponsored App Creation:

                        https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1067/pretix-ticketing-software-that-cares-about-your-event-all-the-way

                        I would love to contribute to the packaging of pretix and a couple of others too.
                        Can we set up a bounty pool for each of these so that we can commit/contribute to?

                        Thank you

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                        • J jagan

                          @marcusquinn said in Sponsored App Creation:

                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1067/pretix-ticketing-software-that-cares-about-your-event-all-the-way

                          I would love to contribute to the packaging of pretix and a couple of others too.
                          Can we set up a bounty pool for each of these so that we can commit/contribute to?

                          Thank you

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                          robi
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #62

                          @jagan there are a few ways to accelerate this process..

                          • have packaging meetups as a group (large, small)
                          • have a first attempt by yourself and post progress in a thread here to get help in getting to the next step towards completion
                          • sponsor an app request, and many here will chime in to lead that development
                          • actively promote/hire for others to package their own or others apps for the community
                          • insert other ideas here: __________

                          Conscious tech

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                            #63

                            There's clearly room and a need for a full-time Cloudron App packager and maintainer, given that the current experience has competing interests for time.

                            @girish @nebulon Can you just put prices up a bit and hire a full-timer please?

                            It's the fairest and smartest way I can see to get any more momentum in this area — you're not getting any younger either 😉

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              There's clearly room and a need for a full-time Cloudron App packager and maintainer, given that the current experience has competing interests for time.

                              @girish @nebulon Can you just put prices up a bit and hire a full-timer please?

                              It's the fairest and smartest way I can see to get any more momentum in this area — you're not getting any younger either 😉

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                              murgero
                              App Dev
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                              #64

                              @marcusquinn I wouldn't mind being a part-time packager.

                              --
                              https://urgero.org
                              ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                              • murgeroM murgero

                                @marcusquinn I wouldn't mind being a part-time packager.

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                                @murgero +10 upvotes to you sir!

                                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                Development https://brandlight.org
                                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  @murgero +10 upvotes to you sir!

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                                  thetomester13
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                                  I second @murgero in that I would also be interested in being a part-time packager!

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    There's clearly room and a need for a full-time Cloudron App packager and maintainer, given that the current experience has competing interests for time.

                                    @girish @nebulon Can you just put prices up a bit and hire a full-timer please?

                                    It's the fairest and smartest way I can see to get any more momentum in this area — you're not getting any younger either 😉

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                                    @marcusquinn : very interesting suggestion and I am not against it at all.

                                    With my business hat on, there is immediately the question of how much price increase, how many paying users, how much increased business .... vs .... the cost of a full-time resource. Not being negative, it might turn out a very viable formula.

                                    And I am not asking for answers to any of that, that's @girish and @nebulon business. I hope they don't answer, because that's a slippery information slope.

                                    Really excited by the 2 volunteers already spoken up for a part-time role. They have system knowledge already (minimal learning curve) and good track-record.

                                    And we have to remember that full-time resource is a risk also (holidays, sickness, career path, competence).

                                    A team of paid part-timers might be a very good interim phase until the business side is clear.

                                    Just my 2p. Hats off to you @marcusquinn for thinking out loud.

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                                      #68

                                      Yes, this is what we've all been feeling and waiting for, no?

                                      Building a business needs tools, and self-hosting needs to keep up with those needs.

                                      Let's revive the weekly community packaging events, help out the staff and help ourselves.

                                      Conscious tech

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                                        To help add/revive this, what needs to be done to make this happen?

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                                          To help add/revive this, what needs to be done to make this happen?

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                                          @privsec
                                          I’d be very happy to spin up a USA LLC and act as a host via https://opencollective.com/

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