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@nebulon For sure, yeah I figured it may need more interest before it's implemented, and realistically I'm probably the only Cloudron user who's hosting on LunaNode (though I'd love to know if others are too), as I think LunaNode is a nice hidden gem that's not overly used yet and I switched to them recently as I had heard great things and their pricing is pretty good. Brief recommendation at the bottom for anyone interested. I'll let them know too about Cloudron in case they can do anything to help out too. 👍

On the topic of DNS at LunaNode though... it seems pretty awesome from what I can tell, as it has integrated load balancing and failover which is perfect and works with their included monitoring feature too (which is like Uptime Robot but provided by LunaNode), and so if my monitor fails and I have a second DNS entry, it'll automatically remove the failed one from the DNS records temporarily until it's back online, giving only the backup DNS entry for the "hot standby" server. Hoping to take advantage of those features in the not too distant future if it's feasible for me to run a second "hot standby" server. Waiting on Cloudron to add in some functionality to clustering which I think is coming in v6. 😉 Once that's there, I hope to be able to do that. Nudge nudge. haha.

🗣 Brief recommendation based on my initial tests so far for other Cloudron users who want a good inexpensive hosting provider: I recently moved my Cloudron server from OVH to LunaNode to test out their performance, and the exact same Cloudron server in OVH used to take 10 minutes to fully come online after a reboot in OVH, and having restored that same server in LunaNode it now takes only 2-3 minutes to fully come online. That's also with some memory-intensive applications like Mastodon and NodeBB (which are always the last two to start in my environment given their resource usage). Same 8 GB nodes between OVH and LunaNode too. This performance improvement now cuts my downtime after reboots for security updates by almost 75%! That's my brief recommendation for LunaNode. haha.

@nebulon Thanks for your reply.

After thinking about it, the graph chosen is better to view memory usage (which fluctuate much more than disk).

I would then suggest separating both information:

keep the current graph for the app usage (the Y axis adapting to the app using the most memory) add a bar for total memory used, modelled on the total disk usage (could be a single colour for memory usage)
total disk usage

This would help maximize the amount of information you can visualize in one go and help detect spikes better.

This is implemented in 5.4

@murgero (you probably know this but just writing it out for the wider audience)...

Cloudron was primarily made to install and manage pre-packaged apps. This meant that addons were defined by the package and we don't want end users to make difficult decisions as to what database to use and what caching backend to use. Lesser choices cover 90% of the use cases.

But over time, we saw a lot of demand about custom apps. And thus LAMP app and even allowing custom packages. And now we probably also need dynamic addons (ie. select which database post installation or just before installation). While this is doable, this moves Cloudron more and more into PaaS territory. My initial instinct is that it's fine to venture into this space and maybe cover 90% of the use cases but we have to think through it 🙂

This is implemented in 5.4

Will lock this thread in favor of the same question about a week ago https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2677/ability-to-schedule-restart-reboots-updates?_=1592566614617

@girish Thanks for the answer, but I didn't mean the internal server. I would like to install MySQL or another standalone server. I would like to try some things. Try and Error 🙂 I have three instances of Cloudron and I would like to install my own applications and if I can understand all things and requirements ... I do not know what can happen ....

First I have successfull ended a course on udemy.com for Docker.

I will lock this thread in favor of https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2189/ldap-ad-server to not divert the discussion

This is possible but will increase complexity in deploys and maintenance. I have also noticed that MySQL changes things between patch releases a lot. Maybe because their release numbers don't follow semver .

I've released the new surfer version which has this fixed. The update is currently only available when checked for manually.

This was fixed in the release yesterday.

@dylightful Not yet. It's implemented, but we didn't merge into 7.4. So, we will put it in 7.5.

@jdaviescoates Even if I did this exclusively, the request would still be the same, if you think about it. Unless I never uninstall any app on a sub domain, then I could always just install the next test on another domain. Eventually I'd hit the limit on my VPS. I'd also eventually have to uninstall all the ones I decided to not use. It would be simpler if I could just "switch" apps while still using the same domain or subdomain.

@YurkshireLad yes, I agree 🙂

@yusf Bitwarden has that built in, I only found it the other day!

Good morning,

that sounds acceptable for me.

Have a nice day!

@christiaan You can manually setup filters in SOGo, Rainloop, Roundcube, etc in Cloudron to do the exact same thing here. I can assist in a PM if you would like help setting this up.

i didn't know cloudron was like active directory. or had active directory builtin.

@girish yes, that’s a much better idea. Essentially the ability to “swap” app instances, or in other words the ability to easily promote from staging app instance to production app instance on the same server. That’d be ideal. 🙂